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Broken Fang vs Van Helsing by LycanthropeHeart Broken Fang vs Van Helsing by LycanthropeHeart
Made for #WerewolvesAtHeart 2013 Werewolf Tournament "Brawling Beasts!" Challenge
Round-3 Match-3 Aunt Broken Fang vs. Van Helsing

-Art by *LycanthropeHeart (Me)
-Aunt Broken Fang *QuebecoisWolf
-Van Helsing his legal owner
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This time I tried to paint a bit different than I use to. I'm still trying to find out a way to
paint that works best for me. ^^;
So far, I like how this turn out! :D
-Broken Fang:iconsaysplz:Hasta la vista... Asshole!
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darksidersreaperlord Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Artist
Van Helsing werewolf against Broken Fang the only 2 bad ass werewolves in the movie the middle werewolf looked like a wet dog lol
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jilllllly Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2014
how do u draw them so well
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LycanthropeHeart Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I DUNNO
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jilllllly Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2014
haha but I love Van Helsing that was the best movie to have the bad ass were wolves and he is my favorite and I love u art is so amazing  
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RainikaWerewolf13 Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2014  Professional Artist
THE WINNER GETS ME!!! :D
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LunaticMindGamer Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Fight club!
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Rocker234 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2014
Place yer bets! :D
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fullmetalcanid Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2014  Professional Artist
Perfect shot of a bloody scene that makes me feel funny inside...
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RainikaWerewolf13 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2013  Professional Artist
Oh....my god.. *faints*
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TeknicolorTiger Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Loving the action in this. And the intensity in ABF's face and posture. This feels much more dynamic than some of her other pieces, I might add. Just the tilt of the horizon and a bit of motion blur can make all the difference, I suppose. ^^ Also you can never go wrong with a well-choregraphed monster battle. XD My only critique would be to work on the streams of blood, particularly on her bicep. It doesn't look like it was integrated that well into the rest of the image. I can give you some pointers if you'd like, though I'm not sure what program you use. Other than that, I can't stop looking at this. Very, very cool. Tempted to commission you to do that battle between Hayden and Marcus. XD I'd love to see Hayden in your style.
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LycanthropeHeart Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I knew something was missing! ^^;
But Thank you. You Have no idea how much I appreciate your critiques, specially when I have no one around to teach me this kind of stuff. I had to figure out everything for myself. Experiment with this, experiment with that... Textures, layers...
I use Painter12 for every drawing by the way and it's been just a year since I changed to digital so... It's been harsh!
You can see my progress it you search in my scraps (now they just kinda embarrassing... XP I don't even know why I still have them).
Hayden and Marcus!?! really? for someone of your caliber I would be more than honored!
You're gonna laugh but... I've seen your art and to be honest. I kinda feel intimidated... XP
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TeknicolorTiger Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I was there too. Well, I still am! I'm always experimenting and looking up tutorials and new brushes. I need more practice with a lot of things such as lighting and human anatomy to be sure. And I can see you've made tremendous progress in the past year, especially in the last little bit. I can see you're becoming a lot more comfortable with the medium. :)

And after seeing this awesomeness, how could I NOT want to see how you might render that pair? XD I've become more and more impressed by your work and I'm surprised I haven't started watching you sooner since every piece you've put out has been more refined than the last. I'm surprised that you'd feel that intimidated by me considering how much I admire your own work. X3 And I'd be happy to help you along anyway I can.

Blood and gore is some of my favorite things to render so it's no wonder I'd notice that in your picture, really. lol The blood blurred out by proximity to the viewer looks really nice. It's got substance and rather than getting in the viewer's way, adds to the composition. So that was clever. I've seen other artists execute that pretty poorly, I suppose to obscure what they might perceive as errors in the background and/or just because it looks more "intense". Anyway, in this case, I would consider the state of ABF's fur rather than just the blood itself. You can imply the presence of gore simply by color and changing the texture of ABF's fur to look darker and more damp. You can do this by adding in some more detail around where her fur is wet - more jagged lines to indicate strands or, if you're feeling brave, actually try imitating the actual texture of fur. It's time-consuming until you perfect a technique but it's worth it! Unless of course, you're okay with your current "cel-shaded" style then that's okay too. :)

Blood has more substance to it than water and can appear either a bright, ruby red or altogether black under certain conditions, lighting or otherwise. What might also affect its appearance would be how old the blood is and what angle in which it's splashed on her/leaking out of her, but that's probably getting too technical. Basically, I'd focus on painting in the clumps of ABF's fur with a dark, dark red, and where the light touches it, a brighter, crimson red. Ultimately, your best bet is to look up references. Here, the jagged brush you used is conflicting with what I want to perceive as ABF's fur, almost like it's not even ON her body. When I look at it a certain way, it almost looks like that red blob is coming out of her open mouth. It's transparent, so I can see where it interacts a bit with the lighting on her arm, but it seems tacked-on in that regard. Also remember that it is a liquid, so where the light hits it, it will have some glare to it, especially considering the lighting you've got now. Lighting is something else I'd like to see you push a bit more in your pictures. In my opinion, lighting doesn't have to be accurate when you're starting out experimenting with it, but it helps to try. It's easier to focus on just getting the "feel" of it right, but I could be wrong in this case, as I seem to have caught myself in an endless loop of imitating lighting. Lots of times I feel like my lighting isn't really that convincing when you stare at it long enough but then lots of times I don't use references as I should. But anyway, in this case, I'd recommend maybe doing some experiments with just two or three colors, one a bright color and the other a darker complimentary. Or better yet, try working from real life. Set up a still life and paint what you see. I guarantee you'll learn a lot even after just one attempt.

But yeah, I hope this doesn't discourage you because you're doing REALLY well on your own, mostly because I see you experimenting with stuff such as this picture. Composition, poses, the flow of action, not to mention I highly approve of the subject matter but you know I'm biased. XD
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LycanthropeHeart Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you for sharing your wisdom with me... :worship:
Most appreciated!
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:iconteknicolortiger:
TeknicolorTiger Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Any time. I just hope my "wisdom" made sense. lol
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Lonemtnwolf Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Brilliant! :D
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BlackImpulse Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Helsing, hands down.
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sioSIN Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
agreed
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QuebecoisWolf Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013
I've usually ranked Van Helsing fairly low on the "werewolf power scale" for the simple reason that he doesn't have much experience as a werewolf.  How do you effectively use a weapon if you've never touched it until seconds before the fight?
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sioSIN Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
true, but rage werewolves aren't really strategist or thinkers. they just fight like animals. and animals just use their brute force and strength to win a battle. but i guess without knowing much of anything about ABF, i really dont know who would win. to be able to think allows strategy, and if shes intelligent and a beast, she would have an upper hand i suppose.
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QuebecoisWolf Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013
I figured that Van Helsing had at least some sort of thinking ability, though he's definitely a savage brute... but then again, most werewolves are.  Not much point in being a giant, muscled werewolf who doesn't use that strength.  It's just a question of whether they're well-trained savage brutes or mindless savage brutes.  In general, I tend to rank "mindless berserker werewolves" very low on the "werewolf power scale" compared to a similarly-sized counterpart who can think.

My personal preference is to avoid the "mindless berkserker" variety since I find them a bit dull (pun intended).  You don't know much of anything about ABF???  But... but... she's my flagship character!
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LycanthropeHeart Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Just notice that our beloved auntie is out of the tournament. I'm sorry... :(
I'm amazed how Toddwolf made it this far!
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QuebecoisWolf Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013
Luck of the draw I guess.  I just really underestimated Van Helsing's fandom.  A lot of people just seem to say: "Who's this?  Oh, Van Helsing wins easily."  And it's depressing that she was the only female werewolf left after Round 1.

But you know what eases the sting?  This art.
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LycanthropeHeart Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Awww...Emoji41 Thank you!
Maybe next time Auntie will kick some ass (or cook some livers)

Don't you think it would be better if they do two separate tournaments?
One exclusively for werewolves born in DA and another for the ones from movies, shows, books etc? you know... so it can be fair!? -_-
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sioSIN Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i love every werewolf type that isnt wolfmanish. the concept of full moon beast is intriguing.

werewolf combat in my opinion, wouldnt require skill, just your strength,teeth and claws. when humans fight, we use weapons, we block, and we dance around each other in finesse and skill to try to avoid each others blows, and try to inflict damage by creating a hole in the other opponents defenses. then you strike. but animals, however, they go right for the kill in close combat, and try to inflict as much damage as possible, and use strength to force the opponent down. but with a werewolf that can think, it is more humanlike in fighting strategy, and will use human tactics, while the other is going right for the kill.

i know that she looks sexy in a bikini :)
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QuebecoisWolf Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013
Well... she lost.  I'm kind of upset that Van Helsing beat both of my characters, especially since I really, really don't like that movie.

No love for wolfmen?  I've been trying to appreciate the design, but a lot of the time, it's just disappointing.  That reminds me: have you seen the trailer for Wer?

Why can't werewolves use weapons too?  They've just got to have stuff made the right size.  Same with armor - fangs and claws don't do well against metal.  Likewise, training and discipline can allow a much smaller force to defeat a larger, undisciplined one.  But even animals have killing techniques that they have to be taught or learn from firsthand experience.  When it comes to werewolves, a lot of them seem like they're actually dumber than animals.  They're just mindless and berserk, easily falling for traps or attacking in situations when even an animal would know that it's hopeless and run away.

Well... I guess some people like their "sexy" to have a little "disturbing" mixed in.
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sioSIN Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
you dont like van helsing? thats a pity. i guess you have your opinions.and how did he win?isnt that the artist decision?

i was talking about the "crazy" full moon werewolves who dont use weapons.but smarter weres could use weapons.

killing techniques are alot different from fighting.i agree that animals must learn from adults and perfect their ability to effectively kill, but killing only refers to prey. fighting is between two preditors who have they same ability to kill, but the one who is bigger and stronger will be the victor.
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LycanthropeHeart Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I totally agree...

Auntie indeed looks sexy in bikini! XD
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sioSIN Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
damn girl! you look finee :D
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sioSIN Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
so very cool. i LOVE van helsing! such a badass were :D.......i feel like he would win :).....
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sammy-yam Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013
this is AWESOME. La la la la
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punxnotdead309 Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013
Incredible! Very good with perspective!!
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Pencilartguy Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013
:iconquebecoiswolf: is gonna love this one! I love it too! I hope Broken Fang wins.
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QuebecoisWolf Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013
:iconquebecoiswolf: DOES love this one!
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LycanthropeHeart Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, Thank you so much! glad you liked it! :D
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Pencilartguy Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013
Did ABF win?
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QuebecoisWolf Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013
I just saw that she lost...  I knew this was coming, but it really hurts.

My money says that Van Helsing is going to win this whole thing.  If Marcus and ABF can't beat him, I don't know who can.
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Pencilartguy Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2013
NOOOO!!

He beat Marcus too!? Even though I like ABF more I gotta say Marcus is a much better fighter in melee AND he had an axe. How did he lose?
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QuebecoisWolf Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2013
I really don't know the thought process that made people vote Van Helsing over Marcus.  Or maybe some people didn't even bother clicking on the link to see the art.  Or maybe they figured that killing Dracula was such a great feat (it's not when you're practically preordained to kill him).

This tournament has made me go from dislike Van Helsing to outright hating him.  Are some people so blinded by the decent werewolf design that they can't see that it's a bad movie, Van Helsing is a generic, forgettable character at best and a misogynistic Gary Stu at worst, and even the werewolf species in the film shows little creativity apart from the visual design.

If Van Helsing is going to become the "Ultimate Badass Werewolf," then I don't know how to bring any sophistication to the genre.
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Pencilartguy Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2013
That is just stupid, but I guess it's understandable at the same time since Van Helsing came from Hollywood and everyone loves movies. If I pitted James against Cole MacGrath I'm pretty sure people would vote for Cole since he is a popular video game protagonist. Really Van Helsing sucked, and the werewolf transformation is absolutely horrible.

On a side note, I am horrible at drawing werewolves. Drawing ABF is much harder than I thought and I have been doing it since 7:00 this morning.
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QuebecoisWolf Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2013
Probably.  Van Helsing is the rare sort of bad movie with so many problems that you never notice all of them at once.  I think you've been forced to suffer my rant about Anna Valorous?

LOL WUT.  Actually, that makes sense since they're mythological. I'm sure I'll appreciate it, however it turns out.
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Kigai-Holt Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is amazing! Great job!!!!
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LycanthropeHeart Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you! :D
I still have faith in ABF
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scifiqueen102 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013
cool!!!!!
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Warshin Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
The illusion of movement with the blurriness... mind blowing :O I'd say this painting way works best for you x)
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PhoenixSpeed Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
this is pretty freaking awesome!
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Dragonf123 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013
cool
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Andy-LK Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
how is broken fang
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LycanthropeHeart Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You don't know Broken Fang? fav.me/d5yhvkt
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Andy-LK Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
tnx
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Wildfire2013 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Awsome, the art work done in this is great
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